[SIPForum-techwg] Reminder and updated agenda: Next conference call - UA configuration task group

[Robert Sparks]

An update -

This message (and folks taking word back from SIPit) has stimulated a  
few private responses to me of people who have implementations of the  
config framework underway and are planning to bring them to the next  
event.

RjS

On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

> There were no implementations available at this SIPit. No-one showed  
> up for the multiparty test I scheduled.
>
> In fact, there were _no_ implementers in the room who even know what  
> the framework was outside of the people who regularly attend IETF  
> meetings.
>
> At Lincoln's request, I asked who had heard of TR/69 and got even  
> fewer hands than I got for the config-framework.
>
> I don't think this is bleak news, but it is data that these people's  
> customers aren't pushing them to solve this problem in any standard  
> way yet. We're really ahead of what the implementers need (and as  
> Markus points out, may be trying to hand them way to big of a first  
> bite).
>
> Please note that some of the veteran attendees (Scott Lawrence and  
> Dan Petrie for example) that might have had implementations were not  
> able to be there for various reasons.
>
> I did a short introduction on the framework for the SIPit attendees.  
> It sparked some interest - there is at least one team that expressed  
> intent to have a server implementation before we get to Japan next  
> spring.
>
> RjS
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:10 AM, <Markus.Isomaki at nokia.com> <Markus.Isomaki at nokia.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi John and others,
>>
>> I have one action in the list below:
>>
>>> - Markus Isomäki will look to see if there can be a phone
>>> implementation prototyped for SIPit.
>>
>> I did discuss this within Nokia. However, there is no commitment  
>> for this feature. The main reason is probably a chicken-and-egg  
>> type of situation: We are not aware of others (UA vendors or server  
>> vendors or service providers) having this on their roadmap. Also,  
>> we have implemented some of our OMA DS based mechanisms which  
>> (some) service providers are able to use already. The zillion  
>> configurable parameters can be seen here, FYI: http://sw.nokia.com/id/b18187eb-55a4-4c62-bc5b-561e9c7432e0/Nokia_S60_VoIP_Release_3_0_Configuration_Tutorial_v1_0_en.pdf
>>
>> For the "pure" Internet based providers we would actually prefer  
>> something very simple, such as the proposal we had last year: http://ietfreport.isoc.org/idref/draft-veikkolainen-sipping-app-config/ 
>>  (already expired...).
>>
>> But of course if config-framework and the associated data sets will  
>> get more support from others we are willing to reconsider. Just  
>> getting an RFC number won't be enough, though. So, any information  
>> on concrete plans/requirements from others would help us.
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: techwg-bounces at sipforum.org
>>> [mailto:techwg-bounces at sipforum.org] On Behalf Of ext Elwell, John
>>> Sent: 20 October, 2008 19:06
>>> To: techwg at sipforum.org
>>> Subject: [SIPForum-techwg] Reminder and updated agenda: Next
>>> conference call - UA configuration task group
>>>
>>> Reminder of meeting today:
>>>
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=20&mon
>>> th=10&year=2008&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=136
>>>
>>> Bridge: +44 208 413 5082
>>> Duration: 1 hour
>>>
>>> Please try to carry out your actions - see below - and
>>> continue discussions by email.
>>>
>>> Agenda:
>>> 1. Review of actions outstanding from Dublin.
>>> - Scott Lawrence will examine the needs for configuring rich
>>> UI devices. François Audet and John Elwell will assist.
>>> - Henning Schulzrinne will engage his students and the open
>>> source community to implement the SIP Forum Phone
>>> Configuration profile (on hold until something to work on).
>>> - Robert Sparks will allocate time at SIPit 23 (probably on
>>> Tuesday morning, 14 October 2008) for testing Phone
>>> Configuration UA and server implementations
>>> - Markus Isomäki will look to see if there can be a phone
>>> implementation prototyped for SIPit.
>>> - Eric Burger will shepherd chartering the work with the TWG
>>> chairs, Richard Shockey and Scott Hoffpauir.
>>>
>>> 2. Review of actions from last call:
>>> - Henning: Propose text for bootstrapping.
>>> - Martin: Propose minimal list of configurable parameters for
>>> discussion.
>>> - Sumanth: Investigate further explanatory material to
>>> accompany SIP config framework for use cases concerned.
>>> - Sumanth: Post some further thoughts concerning the ATA case
>>> on the mailing list.
>>>
>>> 3. Discussion of any other input.
>>>
>>> 4. Next steps.
>>>
>>> 5. Date of next meeting.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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